“Life is about risk, so we will always have risk. You can’t ski without learning how to fall in the snow, take off your skis, get back on your feet, and put your skis back on. You need to practise that, not only through education, but by doing.”
That is one of the takeaways from the first ever Leaders in Finance Risk Event. Live from Amsterdam, host Kees de Wit reflects with three speakers from the event on the key topics and, more importantly, the main lessons of the day.
Joining Kees de Wit are Owen Strijland, Managing Director at Protiviti; Carina Kozole, CRO at ING NL; and Daniël Smidts, Managing Director at Corporater.
Together, they discuss the questions of the day: how has the risk landscape changed? What has changed in the decision making of a risk manager? And what can technology really bring into the risk function: is it a risk, or can it help?
With real examples, such as what happens to your colleagues during a power outage in Spain, and the unexpected side effects of running electricity on diesel, they share insights that lead to one final question: who, or what, is a risk manager today?
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The conversations from Leaders in Finance are transcribed to make the podcast accessible to individuals who are deaf or hard of hearing, as well as to those who prefer reading over listening: Live at the Risk Event 2025 transcript
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Previous guests on the Leaders in Finance podcast include: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Bestuursvoorzitter AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (Commissaris o.a. Rabobank en Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (Commissaris PGGM, BNG Bank; voormalig CFO ABN AMRO), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijne (Chair Aon Holdings), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Nederlandse Waterschapsbank), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (Voormalig Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capital), Jos Baeten (CEO a.s.r.), Karin van Baardwijk (CEO Robeco), Annette Mosman (CEO APG).
